tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14510749.post5227024534266954612..comments2023-10-05T00:44:33.255+08:00Comments on CreationEvolutionDesign: Re: Baxter, Darwin, predestination, damnation, etcStephen E. Joneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16183223752386599799noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14510749.post-1523335677122374512011-02-03T21:23:51.602+08:002011-02-03T21:23:51.602+08:00wheelchairs
>I really appreciate your post and...wheelchairs<br /><br />>I really appreciate your post and you explain each and every point very well.Thanks for sharing this information.And I’ll love to read your next post too.<br /><br />Thanks for your comment. As I explained in my latest post, <a href="http://creationevolutiondesign.blogspot.com/2011/02/my-theory-of-progressive-mediate.html" rel="nofollow">My Theory of Progressive Mediate Creation: Index</a>, your comment prompted me to restart posting on Creation/Evolution/Design issues, i.e. on my Progressive Mediate Creation Theory.<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />Stephen E. JonesStephen E. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16183223752386599799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14510749.post-83512162104690865162011-02-02T19:04:57.023+08:002011-02-02T19:04:57.023+08:00I really appreciate your post and you explain each...I really appreciate your post and you explain each and every point very well.Thanks for sharing this information.And I’ll love to read your next post too.wheelchairshttp://www.wheelchairindia.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14510749.post-79342580061062190202010-01-17T16:35:40.121+08:002010-01-17T16:35:40.121+08:00Anonymous
>I appreciate the list of book shops...Anonymous<br /><br />>I appreciate the list of book shops you compiled.<br /><br />Thanks. You are the first person who has contacted me via my list of "<a href="http://members.iinet.net.au/~sejones/pthbkslr.html" rel="nofollow">Perth and suburbs secondhand booksellers</a>" about my Creation/Evolution/Design pages. <br /><br />>Please explain to me though, what motivates creationist/intelligent design believers to discount evolution<br /><br />It depends on what you mean by the <i>very</i> flexible word "evolution." Contrary to Darwinist and media stereotypes, <i>all</i> creationists/IDists I have ever met, in person and on the Internet (and I debated on a number of leading creation/evolution/design forums against all-comers from 1993-2005), accept "evolution" in the sense of biological change over time, and "micro-evolution" in the sense of change within or at the species level.<br /><br />The only "evolution" that all creationists/IDists <i>must</i> "discount" is that which asserts: "but <i>God had no part</i> in this process":<br /><br />"... perhaps we should not be surprised at the results of a 2001 Gallup poll confirming that 45 percent of Americans believe `God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so'; 37 percent prefer a blended belief that `human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process'; and a paltry 12 percent accept the standard scientific theory that `human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, <i>but God had no part in this process</i>.'" (Shermer, M.B., "<a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-gradual-illumination" rel="nofollow">The Gradual Illumination of the Mind</a>," <i>Scientific American</i>, February 2002. My emphasis). <br /><br />But due to the takeover of science by Naturalistic Philosophy (i.e. the claim that "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism_(philosophy)" rel="nofollow">nature is all there is</a>" = there is no supernatural), this has become "the <i>standard scientific</i> theory" definition of "evolution."<br /><br />>... or the work of various physicists and mathematicians as they find more and more ways to link the various forces of the universe together in testable hypothesis?<br /><br />This question is based on a <i>false</i> premise. Indeed, a major branch of Creation/ID theory is <i>based</i> on "the work of various physicists and mathematicians," namely the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe" rel="nofollow">Fine-Tuning of the Universe</a> argument for design.<br /><br />The majority of Creationist/IDists do <i>not</i> "discount ... the work of various physicists and mathematicians." Only <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism" rel="nofollow">Young Earth Creationists</a> would "discount" those aspects of physics (not mathematics) that point to the Earth and Universe being billions of years old. But <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Earth_creationism" rel="nofollow">Old Earth Creationists</a> have <i>no</i> problem with "the work of ... physicists and mathematicians" <i>per se</i>. <br /><br />>There must be an ulterior motive, as you obviously aren't stupid.<br /><br />The only "ulterior motive" is not <i>ulterior</i> but <i>open and upfront</i>. As stated above, Creationists/IDists are only opposed to "evolution" that claims: "<i>God had no part</i> in this process," which is not <i>science</i> but <i>Naturalistic philosophy</i>.<br /><br />You appear to be the victim of Darwinist and media stereotypical misinformation, that creationists/IDists are <i>all</i> opposed to "evolution" and "science" when we are only all opposed to <i>Naturalistic Philosophy masquerading as science</i>.<br /><br />Stephen E. Jones, BSc. (Biology).Stephen E. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16183223752386599799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14510749.post-9528674352629361272010-01-17T15:15:58.740+08:002010-01-17T15:15:58.740+08:00I appreciate the list of book shops you compiled.
...I appreciate the list of book shops you compiled.<br /><br />Please explain to me though, what motivates creationist/intelligent design believers to discount evolution or the work of various physicists and mathematicians as they find more and more ways to link the various forces of the universe together in testable hypothesis? There must be an ulterior motive, as you obviously aren't stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com