tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14510749.post4443796080461940111..comments2023-10-05T00:44:33.255+08:00Comments on CreationEvolutionDesign: CED news: Main index A-ZStephen E. Joneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16183223752386599799noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14510749.post-61461725678271739402007-10-28T08:21:00.000+09:002007-10-28T08:21:00.000+09:00Mark>"For five thousand years the Church ...>>A ty...Mark<BR/><BR/>>"For five thousand years the Church ...<BR/>><BR/>>A typo for correction I think.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comment. But if you are referring to Hodge's observation that the "the Church" had existed for "For five thousand years," I checked and that is what Noll quotes Hodge as having written.<BR/><BR/>I assume therefore that by "the Church" Hodge means the whole people of God, both in the Old and New Testament eras (i.e. roughly 3,500 BC - 1,500 AD), up to the time when <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus" REL="nofollow">Copernicus propounded his heliocentric theory in the 1500s</A>.<BR/><BR/>One can quibble about the time-frame, i.e. the verses that mentions the "the foundations of the earth" (1Sam 2:8; 22:16; Job 38:4; Ps 18:15; 82:5; 102:25; 104:5; Pr 3:19; 8:29; Isa 24:18; 48:13; 51:13,16; Jer 31:37; Am 9:6; Mic 6:2; Zec 12:1; Heb 1:10), "the pillars of the earth" (Job 9:6; Ps 75:3), etc, don't go back 5,000 years.<BR/><BR/>But Hodge's basic point is that historically the Church has always eventually changed its interpretation of Scripture in the light of <I>well established </I> scientific evidence (i.e. God's General Revelation in nature helps interpret His Special Revelation in Scripture, and that this is how God always intended it to be.<BR/><BR/>Ramm made a similar point that, modern-day extreme Biblical literalists hold many views about nature that were once considered heretical, but have been modified in the light of advancing scientific knowledge:<BR/><BR/>"<I>Many theories of science, once declared anti-Christian, are now held by millions of Christians with no evil effects on Christianity</I>. It would be a very enlightening experience for many a hyper-fundamentalist to read White's history of the conflict of theology with science, and note how many heretical beliefs of the past he now holds! Copernican astronomy was assailed with all the venom the Church theologians had. It was declared that if this astronomy is true, all the Bible is false and all its glorious doctrines! Today, the author has yet to meet an evangelical believer who crosses Copernicus. <I>All the dire predictions about what would happen if Christianity admitted the truthfulness of Copernican astronomy failed to materialize!</I>" (Ramm, B.L., "The Christian View of Science and Scripture," [1954] Paternoster: Exeter UK, Reprinted, 1960, p.203. Emphasis original).<BR/><BR/>Stephen E. JonesStephen E. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16183223752386599799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14510749.post-39381652532369958252007-10-28T07:00:00.000+09:002007-10-28T07:00:00.000+09:00"For five thousand years the Church understood the..."For <B>five thousand years</B> the Church understood the Bible to teach that the earth stood still in space, and that the sun and stars revolved around it."<BR/><BR/>A typo for correction I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com